As rude as most bicyclists are, I sure don't want them going through our national cemeteries. (What is so rude about cyclists? There are the most well educated and respectful cyclists you can get anywhere in the world. Rudeness does not apply.)
The roads are already narrow, now will have to put bike lanes. (Certainly not necessary)
Next they will be walking their dogs and tossing Frisbees on the gravesites of Veterans. (Certainly not)
KEEP THEM OUT OF OUR NATIONAL CEMETERIES, THEY ARE NATIONAL SHRINES. (A shrine is a holy or sacred place, which is dedicated to a specific deity, ancestor, hero, martyr, saint, daemon or similar figure of awe and respect, at which they are venerated or worshipped. (Wikipedeia) Would Veteranism then be a new religion? A state religion? How would that work with the First Amendment ? What is so disrespectful about cycling? )
Navy Veteran, Los Angeles
March 02, 2010 | 08:40 AM
Eisnberg would do well to remeber the hallowed ground he seeks to roll upon was paid for in the blood and very lives of those who put their lives in peril long before Mr Eisenberg ever dreamed of asserting his right to pass. (Why do you think riding a car through the cemetery is acceptable, but cycling should be prohibited? What is gained by putting the lives of cyclists in peril on Wilshire? Respectful and well educated cyclists, not dog walkers or frisbee players, mind you)
stewart resmer veteran, SM
March 01, 2010 | 11:46 PM
No Disrespect to the Veterans, and no disrespect to cyclists either. Cyclists have been overlooked too often, and need all the help they can get. Of course, the cemetery is not an ideal solution, but remember that many years of bicycle transit traffic before 9/11 have not had any adverse effect. "With respect I pass this way" Sharing is winning.
Cyclists don’t belong in a cemetery
Editor:
I can't believe reading that bike riders think they have entitlement to ride through the Los Angeles National Cemetery ("Cyclists fighting for access to cemetery," March 2). What gall. I am a veteran and my grandfather, brother, mother and stepfather are buried in the cemetery. I think this is an affront to all the men and women who were in the service and fought for our country. My stepfather fought in World War II and my grandfather fought in the Civil War and Spanish American War. I am sure they would turn over in their graves if they knew this was allowed. Too bad that they have to bike longer. I live in Culver City and I never see anyone riding their bikes through Holy Cross. My message to these bike riders is find another route other than the cemetery. Rep. Henry Waxman doesn't dare get involved. There are too many veterans who live in his district and he wouldn't want to take the chance of their ire.
Jacqueline Kestler, Culver City, March 02, 2010
Dear Jacqueline: I am sorry you think this gall. Why is cycling an affront to the memory of those brave people? What makes cycling so inherently rude and disrespectful? Since when? Why is the bicycle an affront when we think it perfectly normal to drive cars through the cemetery? Please help me to understand that.
The good news it that for many years cycling was permitted through the Cemetery, and you will be able to verify if any "turning in their graves" occurred back then. Did you know that bicycles were a important part of army gear in the olden days?
Your suggestion to find another route has been tested for a long time, and the result is that everybody drives a car. Between Brentwood and Westwood, there just is no other convenient route, and speeding cars make it very dangerous for cyclists. Do you think your relatives interred there are really happy about all that car driving on Wilshire and on the 405, with all the noise and exhausts fumes this produces? We need to get more people on bikes, and make it easier to walk for pedestrians, and this route would be perfect. Of course we want to do it in a manner that does not detract from this very special space.
Cyclists show no disrespect
Editor:
How sad and potentially tragic (given traffic along Wilshire and Sunset boulevards) that bicyclists looking for a safe way to commute between Santa Monica and Westwood/UCLA have to confront hostility from the Veterans Administration ("Cyclists fighting for access to cemetery," March 2). How can it be disrespectful for bicyclists to use the cemetery as a safe route from Sepulveda Boulevard to Veteran Avenue when noisy and polluting cars constantly use the cemetery roads? And did you know that a number of years ago the VA put a gate in the fence along Veteran for the use of bicyclists (and walkers)? Maybe it would be different if taxes paid by us bicyclists were to be used to support the VA. Oh wait a minute, they already do.
Paul Bergman Santa Monica, March 03, 2010
Cyclists don’t belong in a cemetery
Editor:
I can't believe reading that bike riders think they have entitlement to ride through the Los Angeles National Cemetery ("Cyclists fighting for access to cemetery," March 2). What gall. I am a veteran and my grandfather, brother, mother and stepfather are buried in the cemetery. I think this is an affront to all the men and women who were in the service and fought for our country. My stepfather fought in World War II and my grandfather fought in the Civil War and Spanish American War. I am sure they would turn over in their graves if they knew this was allowed. Too bad that they have to bike longer. I live in Culver City and I never see anyone riding their bikes through Holy Cross. My message to these bike riders is find another route other than the cemetery. Rep. Henry Waxman doesn't dare get involved. There are too many veterans who live in his district and he wouldn't want to take the chance of their ire.
Jacqueline Kestler, Culver City, March 02, 2010
Dear Jacqueline: I am sorry you think this gall. Why is cycling an affront to the memory of those brave people? What makes cycling so inherently rude and disrespectful? Since when? Why is the bicycle an affront when we think it perfectly normal to drive cars through the cemetery? Please help me to understand that.
The good news it that for many years cycling was permitted through the Cemetery, and you will be able to verify if any "turning in their graves" occurred back then. Did you know that bicycles were a important part of army gear in the olden days?
Your suggestion to find another route has been tested for a long time, and the result is that everybody drives a car. Between Brentwood and Westwood, there just is no other convenient route, and speeding cars make it very dangerous for cyclists. Do you think your relatives interred there are really happy about all that car driving on Wilshire and on the 405, with all the noise and exhausts fumes this produces? We need to get more people on bikes, and make it easier to walk for pedestrians, and this route would be perfect. Of course we want to do it in a manner that does not detract from this very special space.
Cyclists show no disrespect
Editor:
How sad and potentially tragic (given traffic along Wilshire and Sunset boulevards) that bicyclists looking for a safe way to commute between Santa Monica and Westwood/UCLA have to confront hostility from the Veterans Administration ("Cyclists fighting for access to cemetery," March 2). How can it be disrespectful for bicyclists to use the cemetery as a safe route from Sepulveda Boulevard to Veteran Avenue when noisy and polluting cars constantly use the cemetery roads? And did you know that a number of years ago the VA put a gate in the fence along Veteran for the use of bicyclists (and walkers)? Maybe it would be different if taxes paid by us bicyclists were to be used to support the VA. Oh wait a minute, they already do.
Paul Bergman Santa Monica, March 03, 2010
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